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Kettle Sour pH Change Post Boil

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:01 pm
by James Smith
Not sure if this is a fluke or to be expected. I've done a few Berliner Weisses over the years and just transferred my latest iteration to the fermenter where it will get a dose of raspberry puree for a secondary fermentation. I use straight Lacto Plantarum from capsules for kettle souring, and inoculate with 20 billion CFU. I used to use Good Belly, but find these capsules are much more effective, working in much less time. From Saturday afternoon to this morning, pH went from around 5.4 to 3.17 when I began the boil. That might sound a bit low for some, but that's another discussion. I decided to measure the pH post boil and noticed it had dropped another .04 to 3.13. Not a crazy amount, but I wasn't expecting this. Perhaps I should have. Guess it could be attributed to boil off concentrating acidity? Else, is it just a fluke?

Re: Kettle Sour pH Change Post Boil

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:56 am
by Jimmy Orkin
I do think the Ph goes lower after any wort boil, kettle sour or normal beer. I don't know what is happening that lowers the Ph.

Re: Kettle Sour pH Change Post Boil

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:11 am
by Terry Olinger
That would be something to test on Sunday on the big rig with the belgian wit. Check boil kettle ph pre and post boil and see if there is a similar drop.

Re: Kettle Sour pH Change Post Boil

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:15 pm
by James Smith
Would be interesting to see the results of pre and post boil pH on the Big Rig Witbier. I'm going to start looking at pH post boil as well as fermentation. I had a conversation with one of the guys at Manhattan Project about their hazy IPA Half-Life...one of Jimmy's favorite styles :) Anyway, as I recall, he said they ensure the final product is in the mid-high 4's, like 4.6-4.7. There's some information out there about post-boil and post-fermentation pH. I wonder how much difference it really makes. There is caution about low pH and hop utilization though, so use discretion pre-boil and early on.

Re: Kettle Sour pH Change Post Boil

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:39 am
by James Smith
Update: Fermentation complete and pH has dropped another few points to from 3.13 to 2.95. Tart, but very refreshing. Raspberry puree will be added in the next couple of days, so I'm not worried about it being too low. I quite like a bit more tartness anyway. Will add pH testing into my brewing routine to monitor pre/post boil and post fermentation.

Re: Kettle Sour pH Change Post Boil

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:21 am
by Terry Olinger
With all the brewday activity on the big rig, I completely forgot about checking pre and post boil ph. Would be interested in the results if you test this on your next batch.