Poll about Yeast Starters

Jimmy Orkin · Post by **Jimmy Orkin** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:45 am

Let's talk about Yeast Starters.

James Smith · Post by **James Smith** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:55 am

Cool poll. I put down "Other" because I primarily use Beersmith, but also Brewers Friend(Braukaiser). I believe Beersmith is Chris White, but not sure. Might consider that as an option as well as multi-select, if that is possible.

James Smith · Post by **James Smith** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 11:57 am

Oh, I see White now. Duh...sorry. Could tag that as Beersmith if that is indeed what Brad uses.

Terry Olinger · Post by **Terry Olinger** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:16 pm

I use brewersfriend so Braukaiser.

Might want to post a blog and direct membera to this thread.

Jimmy Orkin · Post by **Jimmy Orkin** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:46 pm

Beersmith uses the White/Zainasheff model. You can change your responses.

James Smith · Post by **James Smith** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:28 pm

Jimmy Orkin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:46 pm Beersmith uses the White/Zainasheff model. You can change your responses.

Done!

Terry Olinger · Post by **Terry Olinger** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:02 pm

A question when doing multi step starters in the calculators (using brewersfreind but probably applies to all).

On 2nd or 3rd steps, is the volume the total volume or additional volume for the step up?

For example:
If you calculate a 1st step of 2 liters and a 2nd step of 4.5 liters, is the volume after the 2nd step 4.5 liters or 6.5 liters?

John Sutton · Post by **John Sutton** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:30 pm

I used the step method described by John Palmer in "How to Brew" with one difference, I no longer chill my starter before decanting, just let it settle for couple hours at room temp

Jimmy Orkin · Post by **Jimmy Orkin** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:53 pm

Terry,

The Brewers friend calculator just counts the yeast cells. You could either decant the spent beer off the yeast and add fresh wort to the yeast or add wort to the existing volume. The calculator does the same thing.

I refrigerate my starter after each step and pour off the spent beer. When moving up to a larger container, I use some of the new wort to roust the yeast from the previous step.

Jorge Hernandez · Post by **Jorge Hernandez** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:07 pm

I also use Braukaiser, since that's the default setting in Brewfather.

James Smith · Post by **James Smith** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:40 am

Terry Olinger wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:02 pm On 2nd or 3rd steps, is the volume the total volume or additional volume for the step up?

I've always considered it additional volume, but that is a great question.

Terry Olinger · Post by **Terry Olinger** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:06 pm

James Smith wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:40 am
Terry Olinger wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:02 pm On 2nd or 3rd steps, is the volume the total volume or additional volume for the step up?
I've always considered it additional volume, but that is a great question.

Played around with the BrewersFriend yeast calculator and it definitely is an additional volume.

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